Legal tech journalists Bob Ambrogi and Stephanie Wilkins join host Zena Applebaum to separate signal from noise on generative AI, real adoption, and what's actually coming next for the legal industry.

In this episode of Legal Soundings, Zena, Harbor's SVP, Market Development, sits down with two of the sharpest observers in legal technology: Bob Ambrogi, editor of LawSites, and Stephanie Wilkins, Director of Content at Legaltech Hub. Between them, they've seen every wave of legal tech hype. This conversation is about what's real.

What we cover:

• Where AI is actually delivering value — and why the smartest organizations are starting with low-risk, high-impact use cases before going deeper.
• The rise of in-house legal — why corporate legal departments are increasingly driving technology adoption and pushing outside counsel to keep up.
• How to read the market — how legal journalists cut through vendor claims, product launches, and partnership noise in an increasingly crowded space.
• The platform question — why integration and interoperability are becoming the deciding factors in how law firms build their tech ecosystems.
• The billable hour, revisited — how generative AI is forcing long-overdue conversations about billing models, efficiency, and the future of legal services.
• What's coming — predictions on AI-related malpractice, new service delivery models, and the next phase of legal innovation.

Listen to the full episode on

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